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Przejrzałem archiwum i pada wiele takich pytań.
Więc chciałbym troche rozjaśnić horyzonty i podać pare faktów zaczerpniętych z EliteFitness.

Po jakim czasie należy sięgnąć po clomid.

Anadrol/Anapolan - 8-12 godzin
Deca - 3 tygodnie po ostatnim strzale przez 4 tygodnie!!! ( mrówa )
Dianabol (metanabol) - 4-8 godzin
Equipoise - 3 tygodnie
Fina - 3 dni
Primobolan depot - 10-14 dni
Sustanon - 3 tygodnie
Testosteron Cypionate - 2 tygodnie
Testosteron Enanhate - 2 tygodnie
Testosteron Propionate - 3 dni
Testosteron Suspension - 4-8 godzin
Winstrol - 8-12 godzin

Ważne jest aby nie został wzięty za wczesnie kiedy jeszcze w organiźmie poziom androgenów jest wysoki gdyż wtedy nie zadziała tak jak powinien.
Identyczna sytuacja jest wtedy gdy weźmiemy za późno wtedy można stracić część przyrostów jakie wypracowaliśmy na cyklu.

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w sumie niekoniecznie bym sie zgodził ze wszystkim,a nie było niczego o nandrolonie phenylopropiontacie?sog masz;)


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Niestety nic nie było ale jeszcze poszukam.
A jeśli chodzi o te rzeczy z którymi niekoniecznie byś się zgodził to o co konkretnie chodzi?

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BIG mógłbys podać dokładny link do tego?

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kolego sympatyczny niestety ten artykół znajduje się w boardzie dostępnym tylko dla Platinium users )
wiec chyba nic to nie da.

...chyba ze Ted nie ma nic przeciw to moge wkleić caly ten artykół ale po angielsku.

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BIG szarpnales sie na Platinum ? Jestem za, z checia przeczytam ten atykulik w oryginale


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Clomid: Frequently Asked Questions

Something I put together that may help some of the new comers out there as well as some of the more experienced.

Question: What is Clomid?

Answer: Clomid is a synthetic estrogen and is generally prescribed by doctors to trigger ovulation in females.

Question: Why Should Bodybuilders use Clomid?

Answer: Almost all anabolic androgenic steroids will cause an inhibition of the bodies own testosterone production. When he comes off the steroids he has no natural test production and no more steroids. The body is left in a state of catabolism (catabolic hormones are high and anabolic hormones are low) and as a result much of the muscle tissue that was gained on the cycle is now going to be lost. Clomid stimulates the hypophysis to release more gonadotropin so that a faster and higher release of follicle stimulating hormone aud luteinizing hormone occurs. This results in an increase of the body's own testosterone production.

Question: Does Clomid also work as an anti estrogen?

Answer: Clomid is a synthetic estrogen, however it does also work as an anti-estrogen. How does it work? Because it is a weak synthetic estrogen, it will bind to the estrogen receptor (ER) and not cause any problems. At the same time the increase in estrogen from steroids are blocked from attaching to the ER.

Question: How effective is Clomid as an anti-estrogen?

Answer: It is very weak and should not be relied upon if you are going to be using steroids that aromatise at any rapid rate, or if you are pre disposed to gyno. Arimidex, Proviron and Nolvadex will all make better choices for this purpose.

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BIG jeśli możesz to przeslij mi to po angilesku na e-maila, chodzi mi gółwnie o tekst gdzie są podane dokładne te czasy lub wklej całość na forum.
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Wklejam tekst od Big-a ale nie sugerujcie sie dawkami clomidu, w stanach lubia przesadzac zaczynajac od cyklu a konczac na odblokowaniu.


Clomid: Frequently Asked Questions

Something I put together that may help some of the new comers out there as well as some of the more experienced.

Question: What is Clomid?

Answer: Clomid is a synthetic estrogen and is generally prescribed by doctors to trigger ovulation in females.

Question: Why Should Bodybuilders use Clomid?

Answer: Almost all anabolic androgenic steroids will cause an inhibition of the bodies own testosterone production. When he comes off the steroids he has no natural test production and no more steroids. The body is left in a state of catabolism (catabolic hormones are high and anabolic hormones are low) and as a result much of the muscle tissue that was gained on the cycle is now going to be lost. Clomid stimulates the hypophysis to release more gonadotropin so that a faster and higher release of follicle stimulating hormone aud luteinizing hormone occurs. This results in an increase of the body's own testosterone production.

Question: Does Clomid also work as an anti estrogen?

Answer: Clomid is a synthetic estrogen, however it does also work as an anti-estrogen. How does it work? Because it is a weak synthetic estrogen, it will bind to the estrogen receptor (ER) and not cause any problems. At the same time the increase in estrogen from steroids are blocked from attaching to the ER.

Question: How effective is Clomid as an anti-estrogen?

Answer: It is very weak and should not be relied upon if you are going to be using steroids that aromatise at any rapid rate, or if you are pre disposed to gyno. Arimidex, Proviron and Nolvadex will all make better choices for this purpose.

Question: Some say Clomid during a cycle is a waste, is this true?

Answer: Lets first examine what happens when someone is using anabaolic androgenic steroids. When the level of androgens in the body get too high, the androgen receptor becomes more highly activated, and the hypothalamus stops sending a signal to the pituitary. In short the signal tells our body to stop producing testosterone. During a cycle the body has higher levels than normal of androgens and as long as this level is high enough clomid will not help to keep natural test production up. It will be almost all but completely shut off. The only purpose of clomid during a cycle is as an anti-estrogen.

Question: When do I start Clomid? Some say 2 weeks others 3.

Answer: When you start using your clomid all depends on what steroids you were using during your cycle. Different steroids have different half lifes and you should adjust your clomid intake accordingly. As we have seen above, if we take clomid when the androgen levels in our body is still high it will be a waste. We need to wait for androgen levels to fall before implementing our clomid therapy. However if we take it too late we could possibly lose gains. Look at the list below to determine when you should start clomid therapy. By selecting from the list all the steroids you used in your cycle and which ever one has the latest starting point then go with that. For example if I cycled dbol, sustanon and winstrol I would use sustanon as it remains active in the body for the longest period of time.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 8 - 12 hours after last administration
Deca: 3 weeks after last injection and clomid for 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 3 weeks after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 10 – 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 3 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 8 – 12 hours after last administration

Question: What is the most effective way for Clomid therapy.

Answer: Clomid has a long half life and as such there is no need to split up doses throughout the day. I read some where that it was 5 days (any feedback on this). Now if we used sustanon and we start using clomid 3 weeks after our last injection we anticipate that androgen levels are low enough to start sending the correct signals. If androgen levels are still a little high then the normal 50mgs/day of clomid for 1 week is not going to be effective. We need to start at a high enough amount that will work or help even if androgen levels are still a little high. 300mgs on day 1. I know I said don’t split it up due to its long half life but try and split this up 2 tabs 3 times a day. After we have finished this first day we seek to use 100mgs for 10 days and then followed by 50mgs for 10 days.

Question: Do I need to use Clomid for 3 weeks?

Answer: Why don’t you want too? It is very cheap, very effective and can mean the difference between maintaining gains and losing them.

Question: How cheap is Clomid?

Answer: Clomid normally comes in 50mg tablets but also comes in capsule form of 25mgs. A 50mg tablet can be anywhere between 25 cents and $2.50. (15 pence and 75 pence in England).

Question: Do all steroids cause shut down of the hpta.

Answer: Not all steroids do. Everyone is different and you must also take into account how long you have been using a certain steroid and at what dose in order to determine if you need clomid or not. However as the price is so cheap, why risk not using it.


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"Deca - 3 tygodnie po ostatnim strzale przez 4 tygodnie!!!"
Czy naprawdę stosować clomid dopiero po 3 tygodniach po braniu decki i przez tak długi okres? Ja zawsze stosowałem 10 dni po przez 10 dni! Więc jak to w końcu jest!
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